Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa, teaching defense and strategy to Pakistani students, calls Pakistan's Founding Father and the national poet 'homosexuals'.
And Prof. A. H. Nayyar, an alumni of the largest university in Islamabad, is asking followers to fake evidence against Pakistan's founder in order to show him to young Pakistanis as someone who ate ham, which is prohibited for Muslims and Jews.
What's eating Prof. Nayyar and Dr. Siddiqa is that there is a revival taking place among young Pakistanis, the single largest group in a population of 170 million. The revival is unprecedented and seeks to renew faith in Pakistan. It is a reaction to anti-Pakistan reports and think-tank findings mainly in the United States over the past three years that sought to dismiss Pakistan as a nation on the verge of collapse. Pakistanis have also been galvanized by evidence showing Indians exporting terrorism into Pakistan from US-controlled Afghanistan.
The evidence against both teachers, presented here for the first time, indicates a major problem facing most Pakistani colleges and universities. A small but noisy group of professors is encouraging students to attack the very foundations of the Pakistani state.
This is alarming considering the timing and the regional instability resulting from America's Afghan war.
Both Dr. Siddiqa and Prof. Nayyar have access to one of the most influential Pakistani seats of learning, the Quaid-e-Azam University in the heart of the Pakistani capital. Both of them are also known to hold what many describe as views more sympathetic to Pakistan's regional detractors.
Dr. Siddiqa's statement was part of a discussion she had with an Indian journalist on Facebook on Feb. 10, 2010. A screen shot can be seen with this report. [Click here to see the actual conversation on Facebook].
Prof. Nayyar's statement came in a discussion on Feb. 8, 2010 by members of an Internet mailing list called Socialist Pakistan News. A screen shot is provided.
Bashing Pakistan, its history, the Pakistan Independence Movement, the Founding Fathers, and the country's military are common themes among some of these university professors. Coincidentally, most of them also happen to be very supportive of American and Indian criticism of Pakistan. In Dr. Siddiqa and Prof. Nayyar's cases, both of them are active members of so-called peace groups that explicitly embrace Indian hegemony in the region.
[If you are a student and have information about anti-Pakistan activities on your campus, please email details to PakNationalists@gmail.com . All emails will remain confidential.]
Dear Ahmed! If you recall 1960's East Pakistan education was left in hands of Hindu teachers who polayed a vital role in igniting East Pakistan's youth against Pakistan. My concern is if these people are doing such things and in front of whole world and both of them belong to Islamabad what our government and agencies are doing??
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Prof A H Nayyar is an idiot who doesnt know that bacon is made of even halal cow meat not only swine. Bacon is one other form of meat like sausage or kebab. Bacon itself is not swine.
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Yaldram
Talking against Quaid and Iqbal is like spitting towards the sky. It falls on your face.
ReplyDeleteDr Sidiqa and Nayar are dirty ones at the end of these reports.
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ReplyDeleteWill ayesha allow me to buggar her. Will be quite tasty and fleshy. For if she can have such wierd ideas as stating that Iqbal and Jinnah both were homosexual then I also have mine. she should also congratulate her fore fathers for voting for Jinnah because they would not have voted had they themselves not have had sympathy for one of their kinds. Does she think that writing a book on Pakistan Army she will be hailed as an intellectual? She was kicked out of the Navy for her rediculous approach a few years back. And let me say that she is no match to Ms Shireen Mazari who actually knows what defence is about. Ayesha(I wish she did not have a revered name as this)was thinking from her backside which must have been buggard well and proper that nothing straight squeezes out through her big fat bums. Such people only know this kind of a language. What needs to be done is to send her comments to the national news papers and the media and have her immediately removed from the Def& strat:chair on which only good people sat
ReplyDeleteMr Dalvi what are you trying to say. Say it in clear words and not in riddles
ReplyDeleteMr. Dalvi is one lost soul who has been wandering in cyber world aimlessely and one fine morning he came across the facebook comments of Ahmed Quraishi and thought to play dirty like his stinking foul soul.
ReplyDeleteKeep up the good work Mr. ParikSHIT Dalvi, i hope your not talking from the ghettos nearby Mumbai or other areas of Banglore.
Mr. Aminullah Gandapur [aminullah1943@yajoo.com] sent me this email. I'm sharing it without editing:
ReplyDeleteI have an uneasy feeling that such like people are being paid for such "research works" after all the honour that Salman Rushdi and that b**** (something Nasreen, if I am not wrong) are excellent catalysts for such people.
We shouldn't be surprised that such people, may tommorrow come out with some reliable "evidence" from the a** of her grandpa or produce a cash memo from her grandma's shop serving "Suwar kay Gurdey-Kapooray".
Or could it be that "the LAN-EARNED" professor, starving for annal sex has vented out his desire that way. What do the Ulema of Psychology say "beech is mas'ley kay"?
A Coward Pakistani who cannot wear a suicide jacket for such mother sellers"
Mr. Itezaz-ud-Din [itezazuddin44@yahoo.com] has sent me this email which I'm sharing as it is:
ReplyDeleteI am shocked to read the idiotic utterances of Dr Aysha and Mr Nayar. I am already fed up with the "bakwaas" of another bastard of this very group named Dr pervaiz hoooood bhai....an open enemy of Pakistan and also posted in one of the big university in the capital of Pakistna.
ZaidHamid, Gul Hamid and people of their thinking are the main targets of such agents of the enemeis of our country. The so called senior columnist Nazir Nazir Naaji and Khalid ch of B plsu tv channel are also striking at the very roots of Pakistan.
You should continously watch their negative activities and expose them totally.
Mr. Abdul Mannan Lodhi sent me this email. I am sharing it here without editing:
ReplyDeleteThank you for this information about Dr Aisha Siddiqi and prof.Nayyer having views derogatory to fouunders of Pakistan.There are unfortunate people against the prophets and other personalities reverred by Pakistanis and other muslims.If there are fiew agaainst them there are hundreds of millions who adore them.Only those have respects for them who value the freedom we live in because of Quaids struggle for muslim homeland..We thank our Quaid ,we are grateful to him.It is because of his struggle for our dear Pakistan that we are free and not a minority in the vast sea of a big country living as second class nay third class citizens.Our quaid may Allah bless you.He was a human being not a prophet not a maulvi.Every human being cmmits some mistakes.We respect him for Pakistan that he gave us with Gods vlessing.Not that he was a very pious personallity.We should not comment on personal lives of our leaders .We should see how honest and dishonest they are or they were .What credibility they had or they have.May God bless our Quid for all he has done for muslims of subcontinent.So far the professors of our educational institutions we must see that those who are responsible for imparting knowledge to our studnts must have belief in our home land Pkistan and its founders.Freedom of thought does not mean that being a government servant one indulges in activities which are against our beloved homeland. Thanks.
Senator Tariq Azim sent me the following email:
ReplyDeleteDear Quraishi Sb,
Can we organise a small group of young patriotic Pakistanis who can confront these pseudo-intellectuals who pour filth against our motherland whenever they get a chance? A few vocal but organised individuals can do the job.
Regards.Tariq
Y David Pipes can say anything on ur FB fanpage but i cannot?
ReplyDeleteI hate so called doctor Ayesha and i dont know who is that second professor but where is justice for me AQ?
Fazeel Randhawa
E-mail received from Mr. Liaqat Toor:
ReplyDeleteYou are again on the dot in identifying a major threat to our nationhood and this is an excellent campaign that you have started to defeat the enemy's paid servants. I wish you godspeed.
@Asian Defence Review:
ReplyDeleteThat is because the government agencies in Pakistan ARE NOT COMMUNISTS or go against free speech like they do in your country China, or any hard core religious regimes like Saudi Arabia. EVERYONE is entitled to their opinions and share them openly at will in a free society, either they are pro or anti.
As far as Ayesha's comments, I think that is PRETTY STUPID to take seriously. Let's just assume for ONCE that it was true, and Gandhi, Jinnah, and Nehru have a gay club for sexual orgies. WHAT THE HELL DOES THEIR SEXUALITY or LIFESTYLES matter, as compared to years they sweated to free their people in the Indian subcontinent from tyranny?
LET'S JUST ASSUME that Jinnah ate pork. As a Pakistani, I COULDN'T CARE LESS, or give HALF A DAMN about it, seeing what HE DID for ME, including all the SACRIFICES MADE so I could have A BIT of freedom. As an individual, I would rather focus on the ACTIONS and what they are doing for ME rather than their presumed lifestyles, primarily sexuality; WHICH DON'T CONCERN ANYONE'S LIFE except their own.
Of course, the visions of the founding fathers of Pakistan and India, have been twisted by fanatic and shrewed minds in time; apart from "societal values", inner crooks, and outside sabotage (or both sides of the border).
It's cheap to take things like these seriously. There are more critical things happening in the world and much more important past history that I am rather cautious of (as history tends to repeat itself) that what someone's sexual life is or what they ate.
ReplyDeleteMr. Quraishi,
ReplyDeleteYou are a good journalist. I think you should focus on more serious issues rather than who said what. THIS DOESN'T MATTER SQUAT! Regardless of whether there is truth to Ayesha's and this other professor's statements.
well, for no.1, the post has been removed from facebook, and no.2 they say what goes around comes around...so have professors like these braim poisoning students and then get radicalists setting fire to your norms and systems. if there ever was faith in the right thing, we probably wouldnt have been here.
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NUML POLITICIZED
ReplyDeleteThe ugly incident that occurred at NUML on Feb.4th, has shocked and saddened all.Comments appearing in the Pakistan Observer in its issues of 9th and 11th instant, coupled with an eye-witness account by one of my close relatives who happens to be a member of the teaching faculty in the said university, has led me to believe that the episode in question is a replica of a similarly enacted politicized drama that caused downfall of the former President Pervez Musharraf in 2008. it is true that the Registrar, Obaidullah Ranjha over reacted to the unwarranted and deplorable outbursts of lecturer, Tahir Malik against the Pakistan Army for which the former was ultimately made to quit his job, yet the fact remains that the unwarrented abuse of the army for no valid reason was un-forgivable act and could not have be taken lightly by a conscientious representative of that great institution (Army).
All patriotic Pakistanis would therefore unreservedly support the punishment meted out to the culprit, who is also otherwise notorious for his loose talk and slanderous attacks every now and then on the Army including its representative at NUML,Rector Brig®.Aziz Ahmad Khan.
The incident has been blown out of all proportion with a nefarions design, that is, to defame the institution (NUML) that operates under the supervision of the Pak Army. It is also a fact known to all, that the cohorts and goons of a major political party were supporting and instigating the strikers and outside hooligans who had joined the fray.
It is also being widely rumoured that certain aspirants to the top slot of the institution, finding it an opportunity of their life time to get rid of the present incumbent namely, Brig® Dr. Aziz Ahmad Khan, have been actively busy in fueling the fire of the present insurgency openly.
In sum, the campaign against the only well-nit , disciplined and credible pillar of the state ( Pak Army) which has, time and again, defended successfully the exterior and interior frontiers of the country is being maligned and ridiculed under a well thought out plan by forces inimical to Pakistan’s safety and integrity.
Our leaders both in Government. and the opposition, wittingly or un-wittingly, are playing into the hands of our external enemies and their collaborators stationed inside the country.
May Allah in his benevolent mercy, save Pakistani from the unholy designs of its traitors and fifth columnists who are determined to destroy this invaluable legacy(Pakistan) of the Quaid-e-Azam.
stop bullshitting around you ISI puppet
ReplyDeletenow that a brigadier is taken to task in NUML your *** is on fire. You have such a sick mentality of taking on anyone who dares challenge the status quo.
If you have a problem with one or two professors, why you used the word "PAK professors"
It shows your feudal sick mentality like your dad's in ISI
publicmb, much that ur embittered at the stupid manner that the great commando did to the army's reputation, what romi has mentioned also struck me. Why for instance a politicised anchor woman like Asma shirazee had to be invited to a place taeching languages? It does not connect. Was it that this was all stage managed knowing fully well the response of Brig Ranjha if army is criticised unnecessarily? Again the press kept mentioning of the Tahir malik as doctor then why not for Brig Ranjha who is also a PHD? Again I heard the pro Jialee anchor woman atating that we cannot be allowed to put "sentries" on our free thoughts that NUML prohibits every political activity. Now here it was more of a street dialogue. As I mentioned that the institute is for teaching language and not politics. We also want our children to be good parents with both father and mother enjoying each others company. Does that mean that someone from family planning comes and gives lecture especially on safe sex. We want the daughters to be good house wives so the next in NUML would be cooking classes?It is the political culture in the educational institutions that has wrecked them. We in our times did have unions but affliated to work within the university and the college. There was no linkages to any political party - a culture which unfortunately was spread like a virus during the reign of the greatest jiala of the past. Again was nadeem malik that sissy that he could not even strike back with a blow? He should have been censored for this cowardly behaviour for not defending himself. And finally why was enquiry report not awaited before any action was taken? If action became necessary then both Nadeem malik and Ranjha should have been relieved. It all points to point scoring and an active hand of Asma shirazee to mismange her contacts in the media. Should I then trust our mdia people?
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ReplyDeleteFor too long, I have resisted commenting on yellow journalism from your side and trying to twist evidence in you favour and rejecting any valid criticism and evidence which hurts your favourite stance and viewpoint.
ReplyDeleteBy highlighting in red the word "homosexual" you have clearly diverted the attention of the readers from the next words "desperately wanted to bugger each other"
What she clearly means, and I mean absolutely clearly, is that Jinnah,. Gandhi, Nehru and Iqbal might have resorted to point scoring at times. As politicians, founding fathers of both nations are not above valid criticism and their ideological viewpoints can and should be evaluated. Ayesha Siddiqa clearly meant that in certain situations, the four major players of the Indian subcontinent chose to screw the other over for personal achievements, which might not be true but nonetheless a valid argument. Words taken out of context are extremely misguiding and deceiving, which is clearly the case here. Show some decency and ethics.
I urge you, from the deepest sincerity, that please stop doing yellow journalism. I am sick and tired of people twisting facts to preach hatred. People with weak English language skills will take your simplified expressions as the real viewpoint. You have failed to provide counter arguments in nearly every one of your so-called well researched reports.
Nonetheless, it can and should not be ruled out that your personal bias towards the Pakistan Army, hailing it as the ultimate saviour of our nation, does not come between you hailing Ayesha Siddiqa as a traitor.
As for Prof. Tahir Malik, neither have I ever met him nor do I know him, but depending on what I have read he said nothing about the institution. Even if he said (hypothetically), should he should be beat up like an animal by a self-righteous, arrogant and illegally appointed person? Criticizing a vital, important player s as the army always leads to being labeled traitor, anti-Pakistan(whatever that means), pro-India (and whatever that means as well),RAW/CIA/MOSSAD/Burmerse/Eritrean/Argentinian agent. Prof. Malik did not degrade the military; he stated a truth as to why Pervez Musharraf introduced the NRO. Stop twisting facts to incite emotions.
As a journalist, you should know better to be responsible as your viewpoint is heard by 1000x more people than I can ever address. Of course, nobody is an angel and personal bias can never be ruled out, but reporting should be unbiased, neutral, nondiscriminatory, nonpartisan, objective and unprejudiced. Do not bulldoze the views of other people.
Social media is a powerful tool, please do not exploit it. Hatred is easy to preach, tolerance is difficult.
If you are a man of integrity and honesty and truly believe that you did not do injustice by highlighting only a select portion of the comments, labeling Prof. Malik's remarks wrongly and have always restored to unbiased journalism, I'm sure you'll respond.
Interesting, they live in Pakistan and in the world they known by Pakistan but they love and promote interest of foreign countries, why not we expel them and even give them money to live there. Believe be guys, if we do this, they would know their real status in foreign countries.
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ReplyDeleteFirst of all i am not a spokesperson for Asma shirazee etc. so kindly divert your queries to
her in email.
Secondly your statement that :
1.[ Again the press kept mentioning of the Tahir malik as doctor then why not for Brig
Ranjha who is also a PHD? ]
It is the mentality of our military officers to be known that way. They demand it
They love using col,major,brig with their names . they are the slaves of "position" and
power not THE BLOODY CIVILIANS
2. [As I mentioned that the institute is for teaching language and not politics . . .]
Please dont lecture on the what an institute or method of teaching etc. be
This is not the point here
3.[Should I then trust our media people? . . ]
No one is forcing you to trust anyone. Do what you want but this was not the point here
again.
I shall c/p shahid here:
"
As politicians, founding fathers of both nations are not above valid criticism and their
ideological viewpoints can and should be evaluated
"
My main objection to people like AQ is this nonsense of taking on anyone who dares challenge
status quo. Like Shahid said, his WHOLE EFFORT in each and every report is to throw mud on
some anti-establishment media person, or some pro WEST in gov or and just about anyone who
even dares taking a different opinion then the men in PINDI.
Let me c/p one of his lines:
" Pakistanis already know that their government in Islamabad was basically tailored by the
Americans and the Brits . . ."
I picked this line specifically because he keeps repeating it . .
May i humbly ask AQ to bother to inform the readers that if this puppet gov was tailored by
BRITs and WEST(USA) then what exactly GENERAL AZIZ and MUSH were doing in dubai with BB and
her men (rehma malik and all those on whom AQ typoz dont get tired criticizing)
What MUSH and GENERAL AZIZ were doing in dubai MR AHMED QURESHI saheb ?
Selling tomatoes ???
this is 2010 not 1965 . .
So stop this nonsense otherwise we are justified in calling you establishment's mouth piece
over internet.
As you have failed to respond in two days, I am forced to say that you are just a hate monger trying to spread your message of pseudo nationalism under a grab of conspiracy theories, fact twisting and hate material.
ReplyDeletewow AQ you are seriously unemployed!!!
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