Thursday, February 25, 2010

Pakistanis Livid At Thailand For Hosting Anti-Pakistan Event

Pakistanis are faxing, emailing, calling and sending letters at the addresses below

 
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Pakistan’s pro-US government fails to take note of this just as it failed to confront the United States about the anti-Pakistan activities of rogue CIA and Indian agents on Afghan soil. Pakistani citizens and groups are now stepping in, overwhelming the Thai embassy in Islamabad with protest letters, faxes and emails.

SPECIAL REPORT
Wednesday, 24 February 2010.

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan—The Zardari government is silent on a major development where the government of Thailand allowed foreign-backed anti-Pakistan groups, including groups funding terrorism inside Pakistan, to hold a conference in Bangkok on Feb. 22 and 23.

The conference explicitly called for international support for the breakup of Pakistan and for carving out smaller states in its place.

Dissidents claiming to represent Balochi-speaking Pakistanis and Iranians were invited to the conference, full expenses paid.

An unknown group that calls itself Baloch Voice Foundation, based in Paris, organized the event. The group is funded according to reports by the Washington-based Jamestown Foundation, a US think tank that shows a lot of interest in promoting separatism inside Pakistan and Iran.

Bangkok is known in intelligence circles as a favorite CIA destination for shady public events.

CIA, with Indian help, recruited Mr. Brahamdagh Bugti to wage a terrorist insurgency inside Pakistan in the name of freedom for Balochi-speaking Pakistanis. Mr. Abdolmalik Rigi was hired to spread terror inside Iran. Pakistani authorities have shared evidence with Washington proving that rogue CIA elements are sponsoring Mr. Bugti. Iran on the other hand has shown more boldness than Pakistani authorities, intercepting a plane and arresting Mr. Rigi after he visited a US military base in Afghanistan.

A group of Pakistani citizens gathered in front of the hotel in Bangkok carrying banners that read, ‘Stop using Thai soil against Pakistan’ and ‘Balochistan is Pakistan’ among others.

Pakistanis who wish to protest with Thai authorities for this blatant act of war, please use one or more of the following options:

1.       Fax: Embassy of Thailand, Islamabad, Fax number + 92 51 225 6730
2.      Email:

3.      Telephone: (92-51) 228-0909, 228-0586, 225-2185
4.      You can also send letters to the Thai Embassy in Islamabad. The address is Embassy of Thailand, House 23, Street 25, F-8/2, Islamabad.

If you are going to contact the Thai authorities, please observe the following in your emails/letters/calls:

a.      Be courteous and respectful
b.      Clearly mention that you are writing with reference to the Conference on Balochistan organized by a group of non-state actors in a Bangkok hotel on Feb. 22 and Feb. 23, 2010
c.       Say that Pakistanis resent that the Government of Thailand allowed the use of its soil against Pakistan, and that it is unacceptable.
d.      Pose this question: How would you like Pakistanis to collect funds to support insurgents and terrorists fighting the Thai government in one part of your country?

Here are some facts about the conference and its organizers and participants:

1.       Event organized by Mr. MUNIR MENGAL, indicated with an arrow in the picture above.
2.      Munir Mengal is the founder of Baloch Voice TV, better known for promoting a false story where he claimed he was jailed in Pakistan with female Pakistani Baloch prisoners. The Provincial Government of Nawab Aslam Raisani later investigated the claim as part of last year's efforts to free an abducted UN official in Quetta. Mengal's lie was exposed when not a single Pakistani Baloch lady was found in jail anywhere in Pakistan.
3.      Selig Harrison, who is linked to the US intelligence, indirectly participated in the conference and presented a paper.
4.      Followers of Khair Bux Marri, a feudal Pakistani politician from Balochistan, boycotted the conference. His son was arrested in London for financing terror activities inside Pakistan. UK refused to hand him over to Pakistan.
5.      The conference led to internal feud between several groups that claim to represent Pakistani Balochs. One of these groups is something called the Washington-based American Friends of Balochistan, and there are Moscow- and Dubai-based groups, not to mention the self-styled Government of Balochistan in Exile, which says it is based in Tel Aviv, Israel.
6.      All of these groups have mushroomed following the US invasion and occupation of Afghanistan. The Afghan soil is apparently being used by foreign powers to target other countries in the region.
7.      Elements in Washington, New Delhi, and the US puppet government in Kabul have manufactured a separatist insurgency in Pakistan’s Balochistan province as a means to pressure the Pakistani military into relinquishing Pakistan’s interests in America’s war in Afghanistan.

Special thanks to Patriots of Pakistan Society for its help in compiling this report.

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  2. Our Balochi-speaking Pakistani brothers should know that some of them are being used by foreign powers for a limited project.

    They are used as nuisance against the Pakistani military. The innocent people of our Balochistan are soft targets for such movements. The so-called freedom fighters do not
    know their fate. Their real bosses will only go to a certain extent and will not go as far as breaking Pakistan because that would be far more dangerous for the region.

    This point should be dissemminated as eye opener for those few of our Balochi brothers involved in these false flag movements.

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  3. اللہ ہمیں اپنی حفظ وامان میں رکھے اور غیور حکمراں عطاکرے (آمین)

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  5. As you know Thailand is developing country which heavily depends on tourism and nasty stuff. They always look for making easy money. I think , first motive of this event is money and secondly , if I can recall my memory , some years ago , they did army operation against thai Muslims, could be hatred for Muslims and honestly speaking , we should seriously take action against anti Pakistani elements within Pakistan and should try to promote harmony among the people of four provinces. Somehow, we need to educate them that they are not balochi, sindi, sarhadi and Punjabi but Pakistani. We are one unit, not four units. God may bless Pakistan.

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  6. Dennis,

    You are right, Indian Muslims are much better off in India than Pakistani Muslims in pakistan.Because, they feel more secure after Babri Masjid incident and Gujrat riots lol.

    What Indian done in Golden temple. Many stories in India as well. My friend,

    I have lot of Indian colleagues. I listened lot of stories from Indian Muslims ,Singh and Christian as well.

    Please have some kind of positive discussion,

    Could India and Pakistan accept each other and live in peace and harmony. Otherwise, destruction is very close to our homes.

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  7. According to Arundhati Roy (a leading Indian intellectual and winner of a booker prize), The Indian democracy/secularism is a sham, it is the biggest, greatest psych-ops scandal of the 20th century. The democracy of India is limited to holding elections, the western multinationals who are the worlds real bosses continue to milk India for their benefits thus leaving almost 30% of its population(close to 400 million people) without even one square meal a day. Today India is waging a war against its own aboriginals in its hinterland. Forget about Muslims, the upper caste Indian Hindus are giving such a bashing to the lower castes n tribals that atrocities of Salwa Judoon( a government supported renegade militia) are soon going to be echoed in UN human rights tribunals but the world will like in Kashmir turn a blind eye towards it all cause the western powers need to milk the middle class of India n can't afford to focus on trivial issues like Human rights for the downtrodden.

    Muslims in India according to Sachaar committee report suffer like shit.

    Read this and decide for yourself:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sachar_Committee

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  8. Hi, chinnar,
    Excellent search,

    Indian Muslim, they are most victim community in India. I do not have words to write down stories here, but how Hindu Fundamentals treats them, beyond human thinking,

    One thing amazing, how India was successful to curb singh freedom fight.

    Even singh consider themselves very brave nation but they did not even continue it, if they give excuse of Golden temple then in freedom fight you have to give blood like Kashmiries.


    Anyway, kashmiries are best , they fighting for true cause, God May bless them.

    I think we should have discussion in Pakistan that Indians are trustable or not.

    As the history shows, they have always been showing aggression against Pakistan.

    Recent aggression is water.

    First we should overcome our corrupt leaders and corrupt class who control our bureaucracy.

    Our leaders are hopeless and specially our bureaucrats, sometime, I think , Do they believe on God even they are Muslims, they treat humans like animals. They are the servants of peoples of Pakistan but they behave like they from Mars. They have just come on earth to rule (sorry to say) useless peoples.

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  9. I am glad that you are the most informative person in India.
    Well. Your questions are interesting.

    Please answer my question first.

    Do you think that babri masjid and Gujrat was minor incidents. If you believe on humanity, how you can say like that small aberrations,

    Anyway , there are no Pakistani who made Forbes or Fortune 500 lol

    Bigwan Das was the chief justice of Pakistan in Musarraf period.

    Air f and military , I have no idea , two years ago , I heard that there is singh Capitan in military.

    Christian institutions are more than any other institutions in Pakistan , as you know we all ( India and Pakistan) ruled by British , so we are very impressed with English. lol

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  10. Dennise.
    My genius friend, I was expecting that kind of reply lol.

    I think you forget about putting more light on Gujrat roits lol .

    Man, I answered all your question, what do you want me to write a book and sell in subcontinent lol.

    Anyway, I would not support Taliban action and would not try to explain that it was fake.

    Strongly condemn their action if they did it deliberately and did use Islam to scare peoples. there is rules in Islam before you act, you need to fulfil all the conditions.

    Mukatari mai, she was victim. And I do not know, how many women have been suffering. Honestly. It is not in Pakistan, India and other countries as well.
    I must say to all Pakistanis that Islam strongly emphasise on Moral values and good character.

    Dennise, I amaze , how she had encourage to come in front and advocated for victim women.

    I am not sure her intentions (could be for exposing bad peoples in Pakistan or could be money or something else.). Strange, in Pakistan, ordinary peoples can hardly do this kind of stuff.

    Can I say to ordinary Pakistanis that if makatari mai can do this for her rights. Why not all Pakistani do for their rights. Fight for injustice, corruption and dodgy democracy.

    Honestly Dennis , I would like to thanks to you that you write down all these issues.

    I request you that you write down more these kind of issues. This can remind all Pakistanis that time has come to push for change.

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  11. Shahbaz, thanks for your candid comments. I am no genius. Just a keen observer of political and social issues. And of course I try to disseminate information dispassionately.

    Gujarat riots - For want of space and time, I did not deal with the issue, I, for one along with several sane individuals condemn riots anywhere they occur. There are no two views about that. Gujarat riots was preceded by a spark called Godhra carnage where Hindu pilgrims travelling in a train were attacked allegedly by Muslims. This is how it all began. Having said that I must also bring to your notice, being a lawyer, many of the cases where Muslims were victims were tried in special courts in Mumbai, (fearing bias and injustice) and many of the accused have been sentenced to imprisonment. One of the cases which is now quite famous (or infamous is the Best Bakery case). I hope I have shed some light on Gujarat riots. I hope you don't expect me to write a book - haha.

    And please do write a book. As an outsider, many of us will get to know the truth about Pakistan. Another request is do not be judgmental about India. If relations improve, do visit India and have a look at the life in general and the life of Muslims in particular. As I said, Muslims practise their religion as freely (or more freely) as the other communities. Do you know that the whole of India has a public and bank holiday for all Muslim festivals? It probably does not happen even in Egypt or Pakistan. I do not know of course. And though insignificant, during Muslim festivals, the restriction on the use of loud speakers are relaxed.

    Shahbaz, sorry, if I was blunt or curt in writing. But I cannot stand distortions or skewed view of things.

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  12. Good to know about India and what they are doing for minorities like Muslims.

    Well, I must agree with you that riots should be condemned wherever they happen.
    Thanks for explaining about Gujarat R. you are entitle to your views.

    Pakistan is just like an open book, no need for writing a book lol


    But following is the summary about Pakistan

    President : Asif Zardari

    Prime Minister: Yousaf Raza Gillani.

    Democracy prevails in Pakistan which does not suit our country in current shape.

    Bureaucracy is biggest hurdle in any development.

    Corruption is very big issue now a day in Pakistan. In my point of view, corruption is mother of all evils in Pakistan specially extremism. As peoples see that merit has no respect and justice has no meaning then they go for any kind of act to show their anger, it could be in any shape.

    Economy is not as bad as people thinks, because, we have resources and peoples as well. Just only need for right direction and passion for good stuff.

    As you know we ruled by British , many laws and other administrative stuff are British made , unfortunately, when British left, they did not take British loyal with and these British puppets still exist in our country in shape of big landlords . Since the inception of Pakistan, these people have been ruling Pakistan.

    Hope it would be enough and it need more, you can buy any book for Pakistan. But it depends on which author wrote (Pakistan biased or unbiased).


    One more thing, I have nothing to do with isi or pakisani officials. Honestly, I do not think they would bother peoples like me. Pakistani officials are busy in making dollars from USA and squeezing blood from ordinary Pakistanis. And isi as you know busy in defending Pakistan.

    I respect your views as Indian you should defend your country. Please feel free here. For Expressing genuine issues of Pakistan, I think AQ would not mind and I wish that Peoples like AQ should promote change slogan in Pakistan vigorously. Although, AQ is doing great job. I wish him all the best

    Pakistan is my beloved country and I feel for her. That’s why I write here. I am not here to condemn India , but if India does anything wrong against us, then its our right to condemn INDIA and vice versa.


    Anyway this tit for tat treatment is the main backbone of subcontinent’s political history. What is the destiny of Pakistan and India? Could be anything, personally, I think that friendship between Pakistan and India is not possible in long run withour solving kashmire issue, recent water issue etc. if the both countries only accept each other by heart, would be great for the people of both countries.

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  13. The relationship between India and Pakistan, I agree, will not improve even in the long run. India will not cede even an inch of Kashmir or any part of its territory to any country. In fact, discussion on Kashmir is futile because the positions on both sides are hardened and quite well known. In the foreseeable future, they may have to discuss improving trade and commerce, if possible. That's about it.

    P.S.I have nothing to do with AQ or his views, irrespective of the fact whether he minds or does not.

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  14. India and Israel----THE Muslim bashing SIMILARITIES ARE TRULY MIND BLOWING:

    1) Both India and Israel are occupying vast tracts of territory in defiance of numerous UN resolutions/ Intellectual world opinion.

    2) India and Israel are responsible for countless killings of innocent civilians in the garb of fighting against terrorism/territorial integrity (Ironically it is they who are the transgressors).

    3) India and Israel spend billions of US Dollars annually to contain the peoples of areas which they occupy (and how much have they been able to contain is quite debatable!!!!!!).

    4) Both India and Israel are in continual denial of ground realities with respect to territories which they occupy.

    5) Both India and Israel continue to exploit a people who are culturally, ethnically, linguistically and demographically distinct from them in the name of pseudo democracy.

    6) No wonder then and no surprises that India and Israel have found a common ground and every year at least 2 to 3 Israeli defense delegations visit Kashmir to exchange information with the Indians/ Vice Versa. Israel after US and Russia is the 3rd highest supplier of arms n ammunition to India much of which is deployed in Kashmir.India is the largest buyer of arms and military hardware from Israel.

    7) India and Israel as nations have a common ground when it comes to bashing Muslims in the territories which they occupy ( it does not matter whether the people being bashed like Kashmiris have a just cause or not…..as long as they happen to be Muslims……anything goes).

    8)Just like the wall constructed by Israel….India continues to strengthen and fence the Line of control making it impossible for the two Kashmirs to unite as one entity.

    At conclusion…….we have seen one side of the coin by being with India for more than 60 years………….and a fat lot of good it has done us!!!!!! Why not try the NATO example and go the Swiss way………….In today’s world of information and better justice….we will most likely survive just like a country called BHUTAN or Nepal continues to thrive in our volatile region.

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  15. Chinaar, your writing pin point aggression against Muslims by India and Israel.
    But I let you know, it is already known in the world. Nobody takes notice.

    Well, Deniise as Indian would come up with counter arguments and then so on.

    I think, we need to change ourself. Thanks God, We are powerful nation. If someone argues on then, ok, Pakistan cannot defeat anybody but they can counter attack very strongly, what I want to say if we cannot defeat anybody, nobody else can defeat us as well. After technological advancement, war game is very even.

    So, Pakistan and India should understand each other rights and live in peace and harmony.

    I quote here AQ. Our leader gesture should be like powerful nation, not like defending all the time.

    Time has come to revolutionise our social and economic issues.

    Denisse, In regard to trade and commerce, it is not possible to break through without solving kashmire and water issue. But I let u know, you can expect anything from our officials, as they are most hopeless leaders in the entire world.

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  16. There can be always be a counter argument as stated by Shahbaz. India and Israel are both surrounded by hostile and totalitarian states. Both have suffered terror perpetrated by radical Islamic elements. I don't want to enter into any slanging match with Chinaar or any one else. Notwitstanding his allegations, I can say that terrorism of all hues perpetrated by LeT or JeM or HUJI, etc will be dealt with firmly and forcefully. India and Israel have a lot in common and it is no secret that our co-operation in the areas of defence are strong. But so is the co-operation in other areas as well. Otherwise, Chinaar's allegations are devoid of any merit and a typical view expressed by a Pak citizen.

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  17. Dennise,

    India and Israel are intruder in these areas, historically does not belongs to them. They keep occupying these areas by force. Why not, both countries hold election and if by democratic way, they win, they can declare them their territories and nations in the world, included Muslims countries would be satisfied.

    If you say that elections held in Indian occupied Kashmir then those elections are forged as they held under army supervision. Election for independence should be held in supervision of United Nations.

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  18. @ Dennis,

    First of all I am a Kashmiri from Indian occupied Kashmir n yes all Kashmiris are waiting for the day when they will collectively piss on their Indian nationality...."Heound Yaar gov Kaveour naar"...its a famous Kashmiri proverb which will be translated to you by any Kashmiri.

    About your rantings, we Kashmiris call all Indians and especially your army by a loving name i.e. SLUM DOGS.

    Maybe you should read the Sachaar committee report on Indian Muslims n then start praising your democracy...to us Kashmiris it is nothing but a pseudo-democracy. You have killed a 120000 plus mostly innocent Kashmiri civilians in cold blood and yet u speak from from a moral high ground.

    Shame on u but then what else can we Kashmiris expect from doggy SLUM DOGS.

    Pakistan is our brother in despair, Pakistan is our only hope in the darkness created by the slum doggies(sorry buddy- can't think of a better term here..I mean this term won u the Oscars.

    To my Pakistani brothers...

    Don't leave our side, we need you now more than ever before, we are imprisoned in an Indian army garrison and more than 700,000 plus Indian slum dogs control our movements. Our sisters, mothers and daughters are continually being molested and raped by the Indian bastards. Till date there are more than 8000 cases of registered rapes against the Indian security personnel and yet not even one has been convicted(THE GLORIOUS INDIAN SECULAR DEMOCRACY JUST KEEPS ON PROTECTING THEM THROUGH LAWS LIKE AFSPA). Mass rapes like Kunan-Poshpora/Machil and injustices like Shopian keep happening. 12 n 13 year old boys are used as target practice n then FIRS are lodged against 13 year olds accusing them of being TERRORISTS.

    India n its slummy doggies may be able to silence us by pushing the barrels of their guns down our throats but it will never ever be able to rule our hearts. We have a 120000 plus martyrs whose graves all over Kashmir bear testimony to the tyranny n brutality of the Indians and yet we continue fighting them in whatever way we can, whether by shouting or by throwing stones at their armored vehicles....we have not given up SO Brothers don't give up on us.

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  20. Chinaar,
    Every Pakistani respect your sentiments and Pakistan would not step back from Kashmir. since inception, Kashmir has been the main issue and would remain main issue until Indian occupied Kashmir get freedom InsallAllah.

    Well, atrocities happening in Kashmir are known to the world. Nobody takes notice as they are unhuman and just like to talk about humanity but nobody wants to act against atrocities of Kashmir. Lot of seminars held for showing solidarity to Kashmir. In reality, nothing happens.

    Denise, terrorist has no religion, they use religion to justify their act.

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  21. @ Shahbaz,

    Thank you brother,

    @Dennis

    "Kashmir's accession to India is a foregone conclusion".

    If that's so, I challenge you to name one country in the world that considers Kashmirs accession to India as full n final. ONCE AGAIN I CHALLENGE YOU TO PROVIDE ME THE name of one country except of course India.

    "Terrorists who have infiltrated into Kashmir from Pakistan".

    Correction, its the terrorists in uniform who are sponsored by the Indian state that we Kashmiris have a problem with.

    "ethnic cleansing of thousands of Kashmiri pandits"

    It was your governor Jagmohan who took out the 120,000 odd pandits out of Kashmir in order to minimize collateral damage to Hindus as was about to start mass killings/culling of Kashmiri Muslims which he did eventually.

    "The separatists like Chinaar "

    Do you know the definition of a separatist, in other words when did we vote for accession to the Indian union....n if we did not vote to accede so how come we can be seceding.hope u get the logic.....

    "Shahbaz, I don't want to stoop to Chinnar's level in the use of abuses".

    If someone rapes your mother, or your sister or your daughter n people like you defend the rapists......what would you do????? I guess it does not matter to slum dogs as dogs live and behave differently.

    "In conclusion, please remember that terrorism cannot force the hands of a government anywhere in the world"

    AND THE SLUM DOGGIES ARE SAINTS/ANGELS WHO ARE HOLIER THAN THOU-AGREED, NOW BE HAPPY Denis but remember for the people of J&K, its the Indian slummies who are the terrorists. The ones we in Kashmir call terrorists are your heroes....You are such conniving bastards, you kill, maim ,butcher, rape n plunder us n yet have the nerve to call us terrorists.....hats off to you....Lachmaya liath heound hehara.

    "separatists like Chinaar have no place in India and are welcome to go to Pakistan where they may be referred to as Mohajirs".

    I never said that I wanted to live in India, Pakistan is our reflection, its our strongest,greatest supporter. And the wake up call again to you my friend is that Kashmir is our motherland, you have been trying for the last 60 years to shut us Kashmiris up....but we ain't giving up.

    "Terrorism in Punjab is a classic example where the Indian government succeeded in finishing of terrorists".

    Kashmir is not Punjab Denis, we Kashmiris will never accept your hegemony. YOU WILL HAVE TO GIVE US OUR RIGHT TO SELF DETERMINATION AS PROMISED TO US BY NEHRU AT THE UN......and till we achieve our democratic right to self determination we will continue our struggle against the state sponsored terrorism of the Indian war machinery.

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  22. Chinaar, you need to read a lot on International Law before talking about self determination. This is a ruse for separatists like you. But the principle of self-determination both as a political principle and legal concept is a subject of in-depth study by experts in the field of law and political science. Raving, as you are with guns, rocks, bombs does not entitle you to self-determination. The LTTE, like Kashmir separatists, tried this ruse for more than 2 decades and failed. They too, like you refused the so-called hegemony of Lankan state. And failed. The master strategist Prabhakaran was killed. Just read good authorities on International Law. You may get an idea on this much abused concept.

    While Kashmir is certainly paradise on earth, the separatist Kashmiris have converted into hell. Not the Indian Army or security forces.

    As far as international recognition for accession of Kashmir to India - where do you get this weird idea that India needs a sanction from the international community? If that be the case, then which country has given sanction to the 572 princely states which acceded to India or Pak. Get your law and history right.

    Merely barking abuses at Indians will not get you and your breathen anywhere. Like Chechnayans in Russia, Uighurs in China, you too can go on. I assure you that the Indian state will give a fitting reply to the terrorists.

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  23. "If that be the case, then which country has given sanction to the 572 princely states which acceded to India or Pak. Get your law and history right".

    That is why u have insurgencies almost everywhere in India today and that is why Maoists/Naxals/Bodos/Marathi Manoos/Tamil Eelam like situations keep cropping up. Moreover, whether these 572 countries were forced to join the INDIAN union or acceded willingly is what the whole issue is about.

    N u still have not come up with the name of a single country that accepts Kashmirs accession to India, GUESS U LOST THIS LEGAL CHALLENGE AND AS IS USUAL INDIAN SLUMMIES HAVE STARTED TO SKIRT OFF THE ISSUE UNDER THE MIGHT IS ALWAYS RIGHT PARADIGM.

    "If someone rapes my sister, I will go to the law enforcing authorities or the court. Not take up guns or pelt stones and commit a crime myself. Two wrongs do not make a right. This is the difference between a separatist Kashmiri uncivilized barbarian and civilized people. This itself indicates whose behaviour is akin to a slumdog or any street dog. So before passing remarks like "slumdog" first ask yourself whether you fit this category more appropriately than the ones whom you are accusing."

    There are approx 8800 cases of registered rapes against the Indian armed forces in Kashmir....LEMME REPEAT APPROX 8800 RAPE CASES/FIRS HAVE BEEN LODGED AGAINST THE SLUM DOGS and over the last 21 years of the freedom struggle, not even a single army personnel has been convicted or prosecuted....I REPEAT NOT EVEN ONE.

    So, Mr.Denis THE MENACE....continue on your Hindutva related Bharat Maata hegemony, WE KASHMIRIS know you slummies better.

    "We are not conniving bastards, it is the separatist Kashmiris who are the ungrateful bastards and pariahs".

    Can you please explain how we are ungrateful bastards n Pariahs....I really wanna know what makes u think that way???? I mean how can we Kashmiris be ungrateful to the great Indian Slummies???? IN other words are we ungrateful because you have refused to let us practice our right to self-determination, or are we ungrateful because you have raped close to 10,000 of our women, better yet are we ungrateful that you have killed only 120,000 plus of our brothers n sisters, Perhaps we are ungrateful because you have imprisoned us in the largest prison camp/garrison that humanity has ever seen......You are right, we must be conniving barbarians n pariahs cause you slummies can be nothing but Angels n AVATARS.

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  24. My comments have been deleted. So I feel it is pointless and futile if people cannot listen to the other side. This is the height of intolerance.

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  25. I will add further. Whoever is regulating this blog, is welcome to delete all my comments. It reflects on the blogger and not on the person posting the comments.

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  26. I relish the moment an Indian comes to this blog and complains about the 'height of intolerance' when his or her official Indian propganda masquerading as personal opinion is deleted.

    Intolerance?

    Almost all major Indian news websites, the same ones that claim to represent a secular democracyy, regularly block the accounts of any Pakistani visitor who registers and writes something that puncuates the official Indian propaganda on Kashmir or anything else.

    The only Pakistani comments that are accepted by Indian news websites are those that either praise India or at least criticie Pakistan.

    And I am not talking about unknown Indian blogs. I am talking about mainstream Indian newspapers and television stations. All of them follow the same policy of blocking any Pakistani comment maker. They also never publish articles by any Pakistani commentator unless the author is either praising India or clearly opposing Pakistan's views on regional issues.

    All Indian media outlets follow a quiet policy of sticking to the Indian official position on Kashmir and rape cases there by Indian soldiers and the mass graves found there that are similar to mass graves in Saddam's Iraq.

    In contrast, the Pakistani media not only publishes those Indian authors who openly criticize Pakistan, but discussion on Kashmir in Pakistani media always includes the Indian viewpoint as well.

    This is the truth about Indian interolance and fake claims of democracy and openness.

    As for this forum, here we are biased in favor of Pakistani viewpoints. If you want to critizen, I am sure you will find plenty of forums to do that. Just not here.

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  28. We should all unite to condemn the violence and atrocities against innocents in Kashmir, Godhra, Mumbai, Lahore, Pindi, Karachi...by Indian troops, Hindu nationalists like RSS, millitants of LeT, JuM, Maoists. You can not solve violence by another crime/bloodshed. How can we defeat the sheer self interests of our politicians (In India, Pakistan and Bangladesh)? How can we fight corruption and mis governance together? How can we restore confidence amongst ourselves that we can revive our great heritage, diversity, tolerance and prosperity.

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  29. You writing contain beautiful, stunning words, which looks good in books not in reality.

    Do you believe that any politician or any leader honestly believe this way in this world, they can only pretend to secure their so called political future? But there is always hope, how far it is, nobody sure.

    Indian and Pakistan cannot agree on anything in this forum, how can the do at bigger scale. anyway, India and Pakistan are separate countries, they can not be united as both have different ideologies , if only both countries accept each and respect each other rights then it could be very fruitful for the common peoples of both countries

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  30. Rather than destroying each other, India and Pakistan should focus on their respective nation building. Both countries have pathetic law and order situation, increasing water scarcity, shortage of food, basic health-care. Politicians find it rather easy to put the blame on the other side of the border to play with people's sentiment and do nothing to address the real problems.

    I find the common people are becoming increasingly smarter and oneday they will teach these politicians and beaurocrats the right lesson.

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